Evangelical and Fundamentalist Churches are losing the Youth Members

Recent articles about the vast amount of younger members leaving the evangelical/fundamentalist churches in amazing numbers.

Ken Ham, a evangelical creationist spends a great deal of time whining about how he is unable to convince people that his belief in creationism should be theirs and simply can't understand that his religious beliefs are not science. Ham has difficulty in grasping the simple fact that people no longer blindly accept his stupid and very ignorant position that has already been tested on every possible level and even lost in a Court of Law with the leading "scientists" of his ilk having ample time to put forth every argument they could and lost.

Creationism is not science, his brand of religion goes against the very teachings of the original ideology and even prevents and prohibits it's members from exercising original thinking that contradicts his ideology. In fact one needs only to argue a point with one like Ham and once that person is seeming to come around to logic and actual facts another will cquickly jump in and cause the mind control buzz words to make them snap back into the brainwashed blankness that permeates the evangelical/fundamentalist brand of so-called religion.

No wonder people and not just the young have no use for it, with politicians violating core ideology while proclaiming that others must adhere showing everyone it is do as I say , not as I do mentality among even the most recognized membership. The utter ignorance and stupidity is so blatant that it no longer needs anyone to point it out but for anyone to just watch and listen as it will only be a short time until examples from the fundamental/evangelical movement gives one and most likely several. The sad part of it is that they will do so and most likely be unaware they did, then continue claiming to be victims for people alerting them to their actions.

When will this group finally be investigated to protect the children form abuse and the mental anguish that is demonstrated so often by the examples paraded across the tv screen with mothers hacking their kids to pieces to save them from perceived demons and devils, to sunday school teachers who drug, molest, rape and kill children then pretend that it was ordained by their god.

The actions of those people are not of Christianity, nor are they even close or remotely connected to anything that was, is or will be True Christianity. The movement has imploded, it is a disaster, it is resorted fascist terrorism and will continue until the cult behavior is investigated and determined to be not religious but simply the next phase of fascism and thereby able to be stopped, stopped via only legal methods, no violence, no headlines, just simply provide the help these people need and should be given to help them to recover from this bad reliance upon the fascist agenda and not religion.

TFR

States Rights and the Religious Connection

Alockslee »

Suddenly we have a whole slew of evangelicals becoming Constitutional scholars, unfortunately they don't comprehend nor understand their interpretations and get it wrong.

The recent movement and call for States rights have folks like Texas Governor calling for treasonous action of Succession and the Civil War was fought and those Successionist States LOST. This is nothing more than another Fundamentalist/Evangelical movement to force religion under the guise of a political stance.

The reason the US is experiencing the economic collapse is due to the last 8 years under Bush and the fundie controlled Congress. The period saw deregulation and complete disregard for the rights of anyone who wasn't of the same religion as those in power. Now the remaining folks continue to prevent the changes necessary to fix what was done by the Evil Agent Evangelical Bush and his cronies.

Torturing people didn't get it done, nor will the continuing push for forced conversion by the remaining pulpit puppets in Washington. Those during the Bush era tried to force religion down Americans throats and the American population didn't swallow it, in fact they vomited it back on them and now the religious legislators stand covered in the vile bile they heaped out and now have to wear, exposed for their actions.

Face it separation of church and state is how this country became great and not by forced compliance with religious hate.

It is well past the time where Americans should have acted to remove these denizens of the fascist fundie groups and finally rid this country of them by vote. There needs to be a return to truth in broadcasting since that will compel the fundies to report the whole story and not get away with spinning it to their perverted ideology via Glen Beck, Bill OReilly and Sean Hanity on Fixed Fox News!

Until Americans take responsibility for making the religious right comply with telling the truth there won't be any and those on Capitol Hill will continue to thwart the efforts to return us to solvency.

Remember you can't expect mind controlled fundies to act responsibly since they only follow th e lemming approach of what the pulpit puppet in their local fascist gathering is telling them to do.

TFR

Worthless Wisdom from the Woodpulp Worshippers

It is past time where the media coverage of the worthless wisdom from the wood pulp Worshippers need to be heard even more so listened to by America!

We need to call those who spread their ideology through the constant whines and complaints calling for people to dialog with them then ignore the questions asking them for their proof they even warrant considering as valid. Have you noticed that whenever you ask one of the evangelicalistas a question as to their reasons about an issue they simply resort to questioning your intent or trying to turn it around to questioning you on an unrelated line which tangentially changes the discourse to a completely different area with nothing to do with the original issue that begun the discussion?

It never fails, they just run and dodge every time that anyone even bothers to try to engage in intelligent discourse. All the while they continue to claim no one listens to them or takes them seriously. Well to all the fundies and evangelicalistas..... I am asking and after several years still waiting for you to come clean. So how about it? Can any of you self proclaimed righteous revisionists actually bring anything forward to answer the questions I and many others have asked and been asking since you reared you loud mouths and even uglier political agendas?

I doubt any of them will have the guts to respond much less answer on any forum this request, but I keep trying and others will as well, but as any thinking person not under their mind control knows they don't have nor did they ever have answers, only their ideology that is neither True Christianity or believeable at best.

TFR

Are Mind Controlled Fundamentalists & Evangelical Christians Committing Crimes?

There have been a large number of religiously motivated crimes committed in the past few years and those crimes are largely due to people acting out their religious beliefs by either hurting, maiming or even killing others of different religious denominations and/or children to young to fight back and defend themselves.

It is horrific to talk about but it seems that you can't discuss this on Forums as those who claim to be Christian are either unable to realize this is now a serious matter and there needs to be investigation into the actions or that the users are simply refusing to accept reality and continue to deny the problem even exists.

Recently, I brought up this topic and posted evidence to back up this position only to find out that many simply refused to accept the proof from a newspaper article or even the Court Documents. They continued to deny that the "Killer who got life without parole" for attacking Unitarian Universalist Congregation during a church service, acted to kill those present for being un-Christian and un-American!

The pastor of his church had commented upon (this killer) mental instability and yet did nothing to prevent him from acting on the ideas he had formulated as a result of sermons he heard from the pastor interviewed. Now, that pastor knew what this person intended to do and did absolutely nothing to alert authorities or anyone else but just stood by and said nothing. The media has had little coverage beyond just basic reporting of this event and related events like the mother who hacked her children up to save them from demons, or the botched exorcisms by grossly overweight clergy who smothered a little child to death.

How many more people have to be hurt or killed before the churches that are planting these ideas in people are investigated and the individuals causing the problem dealt with legally and with the necessary severity to put an end to this type of hatred spreading dogma that is becoming more and more the norm?

Apparently a person can't discuss a topic of this nature with anyone from a Fundamentalist or Evangelical Forum as they seem to be in complete and utter denial about what is being taught to them and especially their children at Jesus Camps.

One only has to look at what was contained in the documentary of the same name then compare it to past films from the Hitler Youth movement to see the evidence that the fascist techniques are being employed to condition a new generation of recruits and they will be fully programmed to carry out the will of those in charge. If there is a NWO it is not from the secret societies, it is from the Fundamentalist and Evangelicals who are training converts to act and enforce the dogma and doctrines of their leaders.

What better way to divert the attention of the public then to yell often and loudly to look the other way while they build their ranks from unsuspecting people thinking and being duped into believing their are following Jesus, when it is just Fascism disguised as religion. Hitler did exactly the same thing in 1930's Germany and it happening again in America in the 21st Century with the public ignoring the proof right before their eyes.

Look at the facts and determine for yourself if you still have the ability to see it, if you can't recognize the evidence then you are not being objective and simply allowing the 4th Reich to reappear.

This may be shocking to some readers but it is not too late to take back your religion from those who would have you follow the course of evil.

LINKS:

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=1307170

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/09/knoxville-church-shooter-was-hate-crime/

http://www.knoxnews.com/photos/galleries/2008/jul/30/073008churchgal/

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000451.html

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2006/07/yates_not_guilt.html

TFR