Sunday, April 11, 2010

Cowardice on so called christian forums

Recently I posted some questions on a so-called christian forum asking to discuss the proof available on the resurrection.

After trying to engage with these self proclaimed experts on the subject not one of them could even put together a simple time line in which using only the accounts contained in the 4 gospels of their NT, not one of these people could even put one out!

They resorted to attacking me for discussing the topic which they had written about in a series of posts totaling over 120 posts. When asked for contemporary evidence that any of their source documents were substantiated by any other outside proof they again engaged in attacks, name calling and other ridiculous displays of childish behavior.

This finally resulted in the forum host running away in a complete display of cowardice and then shut down the discussion after he did the same thing to me and refuses to allow any responses to correct the inaccuracies of his and the others posts.

This is the only tactic that is ultimately used since not one of them when challenged on the issues can stand up to even minor or minimal scrutiny and must prevent anyone from questioning them on anything to do with their beliefs.

They of course will scream and carry on endlessly if you even hint at stopping them from posting but let a person even mention they want proof (which nothing exists to support them), and the whole discussion explodes into chaos and the reaction of children who are caught doing very naughty things and then lying to try to avoid punishment for their misdeeds.

It boils down to the complete exposure of their position being reduced to the nonsense and unsupported basis that fundies have such a problem with everyday, that being when called for their proof they know none exists and instead of being honest about it, they simply scream, yell and hide while preventing anyone from discussing the subject with them.

Why do they ask for discussion and when they get it they cower, scream, yell and engage in such inane tactics? The answer is elementary, they have nothing and know it, they just can't admit it and will continue regardless of the facts presented to them.

Their programming is so invasive and so controlling the mere mention of a challenge even just to speak only about their NT, drives them into uncontrollable rages and fits of cowardice.

It is always the same result they can't deal with anyone who can think and certainly they can't back up their beliefs whatsoever!!!!

Thus they will delete the posts challenging their beliefs, attack anyone who doesn't blindly accept their version of revisionist history and do everything and anything to stop the very mention of any position that is not in lock goosestep with their Fascist agenda!

TFR
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Friday, September 11, 2009

Pledge of Allegiance or Pledge of Obedience???

During the "red scare" in the 1950's a senator named Joseph McCarthy had whipped up a panic and eventually convinced Congress to modify several things:

1. The Motto on our money - Changed to "In God We Trust";
(Congressional action in 1955 which placed "In God We Trust" on all U.S. coins and currency)

2. , 1956 law making the phrase "In God We Trust" the U.S. motto.

3. The words "under God" were added to the Pledge of Allegiance were added in 1954 by Congressional Mandate;

The fundamentalists and evangelicals want people to believe that these terms have always been in place but they refuse to admit this and inform and to make sure that their membership fully understand this and are able to state these facts which they work to cover up.

Revisionists among the fundies work very hard to convince people, especially their programmed masses to spread these falsehoods and to argue with/prevent discussion about this when anyone brings up the subject and tries to correctly present the truth to others among their flocks.

In order for the fascists to make people follow their ideology which was a blod based religion infused into a political agenda and thereby after destroying ( book burning) any source material to the contrary managed to convince the population to fall in line with the fascist party line.
During the process of accomplishing this conversion to the blood based theocracy of fascism there was quite a bit of obstruction and attacks directed to others who were accused of doing what the nazis were actually doing and this was done to cause the populace to believe it was the attacked victims and not the nazis committing the damages.

Today in America we are seeing the very same thing is happening with the fundies and evangelistas spreading revisionist propaganda and preventing logical fact based discussions to alert people to this takeover. The problem didn't stop with king George leaving the Whitehouse, it only made those left in Congress, in State Legislatures and local governments more determined to resist and fight to keep their gained ground and to stop at any cost, anyone or group from exposing them and/or putting a stop to this ideology by simply pointing it out to people and asking them to think.

The problem is with the mind controlled/brainwashed masses unable to break the dominion and control of the pulpit puppets and the leaders dictating to them to continue with the agenda and eventual takeover the victims are still left unable to clearly think and recognize what has been done to them.

Hopefully the current movement of some religious leaders will have an effect to provide a real honest place for recovering victims to go to in order to fully shake off the programming suffered by the robotic minions that still exist. Everyone must do their part and assist those still enslaved to the fascist fundies and evangelicalistas and only by the complete and utter exposure of their agenda and the full ability to think, discern and recognize that America's secular heritage with the full support of the populace will the cause be won.

Remember watch the News and Media Reports and pay careful attention at the growing number of fundies committing crimes, especially those who parrot things like "voices they hear in the heads", " Jesus directs them", "The lord called them to do it", or something akin to apocalyptic thoughts and the "end times", The Second Coming", etc., since these are a clear give away of the programmed puppets who are not able to think independently and will take violent action to stop anyone from keeping them from the full return to fascism under the guise of religion.

So the next time you are called to recite the Pledge of Allegiance make sure it is actually that and not the Pledge of Obedience which is the one that includes the words "under God" and not the one that goes from indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

To continue with the 1954 included phrases is in direct violation of the Establishment Clause of the Constitution and any true America who supports the Constitution must take the necessary legal steps of educating people and convincing Congress to fix what was done during another period of fear and stupid legislation based upon a fear which is the wrong postion to legislate from.
TFR
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